Considerably more land is required to produce organic meat, dairy and eggs than inorganic — in some cases more than double. This higher land use is associated with higher emissions of harmful substances like ammonia, phosphate equivalents, and carbon dioxide equivalents. Grass-fed, organic cattle generate four times the methane that grain-fed, inorganic cattle do.
Then there’s the water: pound for pound, it takes up to one hundred times more water to produce animal protein than grain protein. The 3 million gallons used to raise a single, half-ton beef steer would comfortably float a battleship. Organic cattle require 10 percent less water than inorganic but still need 2.7 million gallons each during their lives, enough to fill 130 residential swimming pools.
In light of the orders-of-magnitude difference in water needed to raise plant and animal protein, does a 10 percent savings for organic cattle really matter? Looked at another way, if Fred litters ten times a day while Mary litters only nine times, is Mary’s behavior really good for the environment? The value of such comparisons is dubious.
"Chegan (pronounced chee-gen) is slang for a cheating vegan. It describes someone who eats vegan nearly all the time, but deliberately slips up—probably most often in the presence of pizza or ice cream (see: Bill Clinton). Other chegans are stricter about avoiding visible quantities of animal products, but are inclined to say “fuck it” when the substance in question is a food’s nineteenth ingredient.
Predictably, many Level 5 Vegans view chegans as the worst kinds of heretics, and reserve for them a level of scorn they’d never heap upon someone who ate meat by the cartload (see: Vegan Police). This of course makes no sense, as people who are decidedly on the vegan end of the spectrum ought to be commended for all they’re doing to minimize their consumption of animal products.
Rest assured that the meat industry is at least as threatened by chegans as vegans. After all, the industry as we know it will collapse once the majority of people refuse to make animal products a significant part of their diet. And pragmatists are inherently more likely than perfectionists to sway the outcome of crucial battles.
Note: the author is an (only occasionally insufferable) Level 5 Vegan who believes chegans will be decisive in wiping out animal agribusiness.”«
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Many people say, “I’m proud to be a vegan.”
I never consider myself proud to be a vegan. If you are proud of some aspect of yourself, it tends to make you give off an air of superiority that may impede communication. I am not saying that this will happen with everyone or on every occasion. I am just saying that pride can cause trouble.
I actually think of myself as very lucky to have been able to see this issue because it’s changed my life in so many positive ways. But, in many ways, it was luck. I was fortunate. I have known many bright, thoughtful, very nice caring people over the years who are very progressive thinkers but who just can’t “see” the issue. I did. I was lucky.
If you approach it that way, when you talk to people, you convey a different vibe: that you have something valuable that you want to share with them. You want to give them something important to you. You have a gift to give them. In my view, it’s a better vibe. It facilitates education."
“Look I don’t care if you’re vegan, just like I don’t care what your religion, political views, or your sexuality is. The point is sooooo many vegans that I have met have been obnoxious pushy know-it-all douchebags about the fact that they are vegan. All I’m saying is if you don’t want to see the dark side of humanity, don’t be obnoxious and pushy about it. Maybe people will listen to your reasons for why you choose to be vegan if you’re not trying to shove it down their throats. No pun and no hate intended, just making a point. Veg on vegans! History has shown that you get far better results and are far more convincing when you talk to people in a respectful manner and attempt to listen to their point of view.”
You know, this is a recurring issue for me. Veganism is about respect, respect for all, but then as vegans we are dealing with people who do not respect animals ALL. The. Time. Meaning that if you use, exploit, and kill animals you DO NOT respect them, period. So, how can we effectively deal with the anger and sadness we feel because of the unnecessary suffering we put animals through, and be respectful at the same time of other people’s violent choices? This cracks my head.
I only hear excuses when non-vegans say ‘point of view’. My ‘point of view’ is that we shouldn’t rape, my ‘point of view’ is that we shouldn’t murder people, ‘my point of view’ is that we shouldn’t pay for child prostitution… I agree that people should listen to what others have to say, so listen up to vegans, we have something important to say that will save lives- your life included. Sure, there are vegans who might not be gentle with you, try to understand why this is happening. Put yourself in the shoes of a vegan: seeing animal use and abuse EVERYWHERE, trying to lessen the suffering while people are attacking you and/or offending you, trying to change a belief system so engrained that people prefer to be ‘blind’ about it than to actually do something to make this a better world. How crazy is that.
Understand our frustration when non-vegans ask the same questions over and over claiming ‘facts’, tradition, ‘god put animals here for us to eat them’, ‘mmm bacon’, we are carnivores, and so on…just overall nonsense. People are not even interested in getting THE facts yet act so sure about so many things they believe that are just not true. Try to remain calm in these situations, they are challenging.
Are we supposed to not speak about oppresion and injustice? Because we will. Hopefully the majority will be curious enough to look for the truth, actual facts, and change their belief systems. Are there annoying people (vegans/non-vegans) out there? You betcha. But this has to do mainly with their egos and our egos. If you feel offended by veganism, ask yourself why do you feel this way? Is it because you know deep inside that veganism is the right thing to do? That you have been living a lie? It’s hard to realize this but be brave.
And if people think veganism is hard think about the animals, they are the ones who are having a very, very, VERY tough time. The change has to come from the brain (the logic, arguments,…) but also from the heart. We have the theory, but looks like it’s not enough for people to go vegan, that’s where the heart comes into action.
For the animals!